Crudebar and the election, my response

[Willie99]

For all post up bets, that is for people who have sent me money to act as treasurer, I plan to disburse those funds to the winner as promised. I have emails for all the PP transactions (I can still log in), and I can reach out to posters on this forum if I need to. There will be no longer be any tracking of those transactions on this forum. That's against SBR rules

I have never been part of the non-post-up wagers. That's between the participants, they all have to figure out how to proceed going forward. I'm going to suggest you exchange e-mails and do so quickly. I believe Crudebar is getting banned, and I have no control over that. I don't want to be involved in those wagers, this is already far more work than I ever anticipated.

I will no longer act as treasurer for any person to person wagers on this forum. I believe the forum contests are still OK although they too are frowned upon. Games of skill, like fantasy and the contests, are not considered gambling activities and are actually legal, which is why you see them out there all over the place and even advertised on TV. So there's a big difference in the legal world

It appears this crackdown was unknowingly caused by Crudebar himself, when he reached out to SBR concerned about being "robbed" if he were to be banned. When they learned of these wagers, they didn't react as Crudebar expected, they want him banned and they want the wagers to disappear.

I'm not an inside guy here, although some may think I am. I will do my best to do the right thing, I hope all involved parties do likewise

 

[MAGAking1]

Ok so you are still banned from pp

 

[Willie99]

My account as been frozen, I'm not banned. I can still log in and I can still issue refunds. I can withdraw the funds in six months, which is closer to 4.5 months now.

I am planning a longer, more formal response to them and I believe I have a puncher's chance to restore privileges. But I'm not planning on it for the time being

 

[brendanjack]

Sorry Willie that truly sucks ass. It takes the fun out of it especially when all you do is the right thing and get dragged down due to a scumbag .

 

[Bozzie]

Stand up for placing those wagers in the hands of the winners Willie...Well done pal..good call and respect to you.

 

[Knightrofins]

Thank you for getting involved with this and sorry that you got involved with this

 

[CHOPTALK]

All I have to say is the winners of these bets need to pay at least 10% of the winnings to Willie after all the BS Willie has put up with .

 

[In2Win]

Solid guy, that I am sure didn't anticiapte it getting into this. Now I am sure there is much more legwork involved in making sure the right thing happens. Props

 

[REDEYE]

Willie should take whatever cut he wants for going thru this ordeal.. I wouldn't pay out though until he gets the green light from PP that a charge back didn' t take place by Crude.

 

[soli]

For all post up bets, that is for people who have sent me money to act as treasurer, I plan to disburse those funds to the winner as promised. I have emails for all the PP transactions (I can still log in), and I can reach out to posters on this forum if I need to. There will be no longer be any tracking of those transactions on this forum. That's against SBR rules

I have never been part of the non-post-up wagers. That's between the participants, they all have to figure out how to proceed going forward. I'm going to suggest you exchange e-mails and do so quickly. I believe Crudebar is getting banned, and I have no control over that. I don't want to be involved in those wagers, this is already far more work than I ever anticipated.

I will no longer act as treasurer for any person to person wagers on this forum. I believe the forum contests are still OK although they too are frowned upon. Games of skill, like fantasy and the contests, are not considered gambling activities and are actually legal, which is why you see them out there all over the place and even advertised on TV. So there's a big difference in the legal world

It appears this crackdown was unknowingly caused by Crudebar himself, when he reached out to SBR concerned about being "robbed" if he were to be banned. When they learned of these wagers, they didn't react as Crudebar expected, they want him banned and they want the wagers to disappear.

I'm not an inside guy here, although some may think I am. I will do my best to do the right thing, I hope all involved parties do likewise

+ 1
This is what really Matters! Stick to your Guns Willie!!

 

[rolltide]

wow i never saw this coming...crude is such a stand-up guy and nutter leftists always uphold the highest of standards when involved in forum bets.

next thing you're gonna tell me is that crudebar wasn't his first rxforum name and it won't be his last. that'll really blow me away

 

[crudebar]

I reach out to SBR as soon as i got placed on post review. It had nothing to do with not trusting Willie. I trust him and always have. The thought was i was going to get banned and Willie put in a tough spot, which is what happened.

I will state this all again.

I am not this other poster

I do not change my join date

I did not scam a sports book 17 years ago

I did not get Willie's PP frozen(my works just fine fyi)

I did not scam PatsFan or anyone else for 5k.

I have no clue who this StandfordS is, nor why he just instanly showed up. If i am this other poster he fears so much, why does he still post under the name of Louie12 and has trolled me for a solid month.

Along with all the other shit thrown at me at the 11th hour.

With this stated, I understand i am not going to win this disagreement.

I would like to get everyone paid if i lose(i am not a stiff nor ever have been or ever will).

I would like to brainstorm some ideas how we can get everyone paid. Before i get banned or whatever.

edit: This Stanford stated he had a PM that i said i was this "wood" i asked him to show this PM and he never did, could someone come forward that i wrote this to?

He also stated i scammed someone else for 5k. Could this poster come forward?

I have other things to do this morning so probably won't be able to answer anything else going forward for at lest a few hours. I am hoping to get at lest a little bit of time to straighten this all out.

Patience would be much appreciated.

edit edit: i see i am off post review. Which will make this easier. Thanks for that at lest.

 

[crudebar]

For all post up bets, that is for people who have sent me money to act as treasurer, I plan to disburse those funds to the winner as promised. I have emails for all the PP transactions (I can still log in), and I can reach out to posters on this forum if I need to. There will be no longer be any tracking of those transactions on this forum. That's against SBR rules

I have never been part of the non-post-up wagers. That's between the participants, they all have to figure out how to proceed going forward. I'm going to suggest you exchange e-mails and do so quickly. I believe Crudebar is getting banned, and I have no control over that. I don't want to be involved in those wagers, this is already far more work than I ever anticipated.

I will no longer act as treasurer for any person to person wagers on this forum. I believe the forum contests are still OK although they too are frowned upon. Games of skill, like fantasy and the contests, are not considered gambling activities and are actually legal, which is why you see them out there all over the place and even advertised on TV. So there's a big difference in the legal world

It appears this crackdown was unknowingly caused by Crudebar himself, when he reached out to SBR concerned about being "robbed" if he were to be banned. When they learned of these wagers, they didn't react as Crudebar expected, they want him banned and they want the wagers to disappear.

I'm not an inside guy here, although some may think I am. I will do my best to do the right thing, I hope all involved parties do likewise

Lastly, i want to thank you Willie. You are a stand up gambler and i truly appreciate you going above and beyond with these circumstances.

Like i have stated previously, we don't agree on much of anything politically but you are my brother when it comes to being a gambler.

If you plan on going to Vegas in March, i owe you a dinner and at lest 16 drinks.

 

[REDEYE]

I reach out to SBR as soon as i got placed on post review. It had nothing to do with not trusting Willie. I trust him and always have. The thought was i was going to get banned and Willie put in a tough spot, which is what happened.

I will state this all again.

I am not this other poster

I do not change my join date

I did not scam a sports book 17 years ago

I did not get Willie's PP frozen(my works just fine fyi)

I did not scam PatsFan or anyone else for 5k.

I have no clue who this StandfordS is, nor why he just instanly showed up. If i am this other poster he fears so much, why does he still post under the name of Louie12 and has trolled me for a solid month.

Along with all the other shit thrown at me at the 11th hour.

With this stated, I understand i am not going to win this disagreement.

I would like to get everyone paid if i lose(i am not a stiff nor ever have been or ever will).

I would like to brainstorm some ideas how we can get everyone paid. Before i get banned or whatever.

edit: This Stanford stated he had a PM that i said i was this "wood" i asked him to show this PM and he never did, could someone come forward that i wrote this to?

He also stated i scammed someone else for 5k. Could this poster come forward?

I have other things to do this morning so probably won't be able to answer anything else going forward for at lest a few hours. I am hoping to get at lest a little bit of time to straighten this all out.

Patience would be much appreciated.

edit edit: i see i am off post review. Which will make this easier. Thanks for that at lest.

When I started the thread , first thing I stated was I hope Crudebar comes in and gives some transparency from his end. I think he should get the time to clear this up one way or the other. I was never advocating for him to get banned or any bets to get cancelled either.

The PP issue was of concern. Pretty much why I brought it up. Coincidence why both Sam and Willie's accounts got frozen dealing with Crude..my idea was for Crude to post up funds to match the bets placed. That would be the solution I wanted. I'm 100% convinced I'm winning those bets. No problem here of paying out , problem I saw , a big doubt I was going to get paid..

 

[Bozzie]

One dude comes outa this looking like a real shit and it's not you or a Mod...Good luck pal if you get banned Crudebar.

 

[REDEYE]

One dude comes outa this looking like a real shit and it's not you or a Mod...Good luck pal if you get banned Crudebar.

Who would that be ?

 

[exploited17]

One dude comes outa this looking like a real shit and it's not you or a Mod...Good luck pal if you get banned Crudebar.

Not really
We still don't know why they(mods) seem to think he is wood
If he isn't then that is a different story

 

[CHOPTALK]

Gets removed from PR then 5 mins later gets banned lol.

 

[Bozzie]

Not really
We still don't know why they(mods) seem to think he is wood
If he isn't then that is a different story

IP addresses are like finger prints....but Whatever Crudebar did in the past and this bet are two separate things at least the way I see it.
Crudebar won and that seems to be the issue in reality.. and the infraction here.

 

[REDEYE]

IP addresses are like finger prints....but Whatever Crudebar did in the past and this bet are two separate things at least the way I see it.
Crudebar won and that seems to be the issue in reality.. and the infraction here.

He hasn't won anything yet ? .